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	<description>Andy Cottingham thinking out loud...</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on unity &#038; diversity by Howard Maidman</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/12/05/unity-diversity/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Maidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

Love the blog which editor do you use?  Happy Christmas to all of you and your families at CC</description>
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<p>Love the blog which editor do you use?  Happy Christmas to all of you and your families at CC</p>
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		<title>Comment on god is busy!! by Boaly</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/11/04/god-is-busy/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Boaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great truth! Thanks for posting this reminder that God is always working</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great truth! Thanks for posting this reminder that God is always working</p>
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		<title>Comment on lay down your life by Boaly</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/10/21/lay-down-your-life/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>Boaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what encouragement! Thanks for posting this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what encouragement! Thanks for posting this</p>
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		<title>Comment on the love of money by Acai Berries</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/09/19/the-love-of-money/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Acai Berries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a pretty good writing skills.  Nice blog.  Add to my reader!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a pretty good writing skills.  Nice blog.  Add to my reader!</p>
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		<title>Comment on do everything without complaining or arguing by James</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/09/10/do-everything-without-complaining-or-arguing/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Together On A Mission &#8216;07 (Special Report) &#124; Part 1 by Dave</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2007/07/11/together-on-a-mission-07-special-report/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. &lt;a href="http://bride-makeup.ru" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Send a link to friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. <a href="http://bride-makeup.ru" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/bride-makeup.ru');"></a>Send a link to friend</p>
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		<title>Comment on Together On A Mission &#8216;07 (Special Report) &#124; Part 3 by Alex</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2007/07/13/together-on-a-mission-07-special-report-part-3/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is interesting! 
 
Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is interesting! </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New name, new look, still me by Al Shaw</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/08/08/new-name-new-look-still-me/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

Love the new look.

Ah, Cape Town!.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>Love the new look.</p>
<p>Ah, Cape Town!&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on TOAM 08 by dave bish</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/07/18/toam-08/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>dave bish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Challenging reflections. Driscoll's missional eyes are a real help aren't they! I've been chewing over Galatians again since Brighton and seeing afresh the missiological threads... and so a more glorious gospel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Challenging reflections. Driscoll&#8217;s missional eyes are a real help aren&#8217;t they! I&#8217;ve been chewing over Galatians again since Brighton and seeing afresh the missiological threads&#8230; and so a more glorious gospel!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership Challenges &#124; Part 2 by Andy Cottingham</title>
		<link>http://andycottingham.com/2008/03/14/leadership-challenges-part-2/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Cottingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Al, always nice to hear from you. 

I agree with you whole heartedly that the whole church weighs prophecy, vision etc - there are some practical issues relating to this happening in a meeting, for instance. Let's say a newish christian, seeking to have a go, hijacks the flow of a worship-time with an inappropriate contribution. The church clearly knows that this has happened, and in that sense they have weighed the contribution. What happens next requires leadership. For the sake of the contributor it's not going to work, for most, to bring a correction publicly, but for the sake of the meeting refocus is required. The skilled, sensitive leader draws the meeting back without crushing the misguided yet enthusiastic contributor. This is leadership.

You'd be hard pushed to find someone who likes the corporate business model, for church, less than I do!! What I find it lacks more than anything else is any kind for relational reference. As you say, it's built on the bottom line, which seems to rule the day entirely. You can be given your department and expected to produce results with limited resources. However, there is some wisdom to be gleaned form the business world. Churches can lack entrepreneurial vision - we tend to quickly descend into tradition. They can waste money because they don't think too carefully about a good financial deal when spending.

In my opinion the answer to democracy in the church (which I really don't want, or see in the NT) is relationship and communication. We need to work hard to communicate with everyone both information and vision. I personally give a substantial amount of time working on both these aspects of church life. Relationship and communication, by definition, work both ways and so, sometimes more slowly than we'd really like progress is made adjusting details along the way.

That is really what practically happens here on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Al, always nice to hear from you. </p>
<p>I agree with you whole heartedly that the whole church weighs prophecy, vision etc - there are some practical issues relating to this happening in a meeting, for instance. Let&#8217;s say a newish christian, seeking to have a go, hijacks the flow of a worship-time with an inappropriate contribution. The church clearly knows that this has happened, and in that sense they have weighed the contribution. What happens next requires leadership. For the sake of the contributor it&#8217;s not going to work, for most, to bring a correction publicly, but for the sake of the meeting refocus is required. The skilled, sensitive leader draws the meeting back without crushing the misguided yet enthusiastic contributor. This is leadership.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be hard pushed to find someone who likes the corporate business model, for church, less than I do!! What I find it lacks more than anything else is any kind for relational reference. As you say, it&#8217;s built on the bottom line, which seems to rule the day entirely. You can be given your department and expected to produce results with limited resources. However, there is some wisdom to be gleaned form the business world. Churches can lack entrepreneurial vision - we tend to quickly descend into tradition. They can waste money because they don&#8217;t think too carefully about a good financial deal when spending.</p>
<p>In my opinion the answer to democracy in the church (which I really don&#8217;t want, or see in the NT) is relationship and communication. We need to work hard to communicate with everyone both information and vision. I personally give a substantial amount of time working on both these aspects of church life. Relationship and communication, by definition, work both ways and so, sometimes more slowly than we&#8217;d really like progress is made adjusting details along the way.</p>
<p>That is really what practically happens here on a daily basis.</p>
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